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  • PresidentO
    05-14 06:35 PM
    K , I see two views by two different types of folks.

    View #1: This system sucks. Its not fair and just. America is a great country and land of immigrants and we chose to immigrate here. Lets work on this issue so that I myself and folks such as myself now and going forward do not have this problem. I will do what ever it takes. I personally feel that regardless of the outcome, it gives immense self satisfaction to commit to meaningful cause. Others might not feel so, but all of us believe that this problem needs to be solved and do what ever we can do.

    View #2: Some people come resigned with the idea that they will be looked down. Now My question is what do you want to accomplish on IV if you do not want to work on the issue, If you do not want believe in the core principles of this organization. If you think that immigrants are treated like dirt and again if you believe in that and because you are an immigrant in this country, you should have been putting up with a treatment like dirt, do you have an iota of self esteem?? Seriously, If you really believe what you are saying why do you even want to be here now? or why do you even want to have a backup plan that will again make you a immigrant some where else?? $$$ over ride self esteem Huh? In the name of discussion you want to shape the opinion of people who do not talk much. Kudos to your agenda. You keep spitting out your rhetoric that immigrants are dirt but cannot make arguments that hold water for a single second.

    I compared the president to show that immigrants and sons of immigrants can have a life that is quite opposite of what the OP said. Just because you or some one you know treated some one bad does not mean that every one treats others the same. B T W, There are others in congress who are born out of country as well and there are governors born some where. stop smoking too much

    B T W, All of us know that immigration in the US is broken and we want to do our best to fix it. You can chose not to do so. Did some one say that you have to get a life because you chose not to do so? Yes, there are many other countries that have smoother immigration process. Every one is welcome to explore them and you did. In fact, IV wiki has sections dedicated for immigration to other countries. You can chose to develop them or can chose other wise. Just because you have explored other options and found some thing that suits your situation does not mean every plain jane can and will find one. You expect the US congress to get its act right, modify the immigration system and have all of us walk on a red carpet. That would be ideal. Even I will love that. As that is not the case and some of us has chosen to work with the US Congress, you consider us folks who dont have a life. It comes down to the difference that you dont want to work on this issue and have things served on a silver platter, while many of us want to work and fix this issue. Rant as much as you can but all of your arguments contradict each other

    Mr Brown,

    Should I say that all of you those who bought homes and are having a life bought a home with 0% down and interest only loan so that you can save your taxes now and if your GC does not come through in 5 years, you will walk out with out any loss as you made hefty deductions and haven't paid single penny towards the mortgage and simply go to Timbuktu or Krakovia. I will not!. Just because you chose to buy a home and have a life does not mean that others dont. Every one lives their own lives. Those who dont buy a home live a life of their choice. Stop judging people. GC was not a risk or hindrance to you in buying a home but could be for Joe the Analyst. You might have deep pockets, Joe the analyst might not or have other commitments. Coupled with the lack of GC, his risk might be more than some one else.





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  • laborchic
    12-26 03:06 PM
    Great stuff folks..

    I convinced more people from my office to send a message on change.gov. Even US citizens who respect your work could send a message to the transition team saying that they are for the legal and highly skilled immigrants...

    Getting recommendations from your bosses, managers and co-workers may also be helpful. Its very unusual for the USCIS/Immigration dept people to hear good things about the immigrants from US Citizens.

    These days lots of people are talking about the transition at work and they know about change.gov website. If you know good friends who can write for you then that could be of great help.

    I have a feeling that some good news is coming up in the pipeline. Was reading about Janet Naplolitano and Silos in today's NY times editorial.

    Lets give it a best shot here guys..:)





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  • bklog_sufferer
    06-07 08:59 AM
    Well said logiclife, I can't agree with you anymore and must say that I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts.:)


    Is immigration a right? ABSOLUTELY.

    Well, over the past few months we have heard a lot of sound bites like �Immigration is a privilege, not a right�. �We are a country of immigrants but we are also a country of laws.� We will see about that in moment when we look at history and find out how lawful immigration has historically been.

    Let�s focus on one thing sorely missing from our community: The sense of entitlement.

    A lot of employment based immigrants in this country, legally here, on H1, L1, J1 etc. have asked themselves, �What right do I have to ask for change in laws or relief from congress? I am not even a citizen. Lobby congress? As an alien? Are you kidding me? Do you want to get deported? Do you realize you are going �against� the Government?�

    Therein comes the lack of sense of entitlement.

    First of all, legally speaking, there is no distinction between the constitutional rights of citizens and the constitutional rights of those who are non-citizens � legal or illegal. (Non-citizens are also called �aliens�, but I refrain from using that word whenever I remember coz none of us look like characters of Star Wars and we are not green-headed animals with 6 limbs, so I don�t consider myself an alien just because I was born somewhere else on the same planet).

    Second of all, as a person within the jurisdiction of the United States, the first amendment actually prohibits the congress from making any laws against stated rights � one of which is the right to petition the Government for redress of grievances. So not only its legal to do what we are doing, it unconstitutional to pass a law to make it illegal for us to petition (or lobby, advocate, litigate) government for a redress of grievances. And that first amendment isn�t changing, coz to change it, its going to need two-thirds of US congress and three-fourths of states to back it. And we all know, how lucky we are to have 51 senators agree on the fact that sun rises from the east.

    Earned Right or Birthright?

    The fact that you are here and you are here legally and working with the system to earn immigration is something you should be proud of. Not guilty of. If you treat yourself as guests, the government will treat you like a guest. I would rather treat myself two times the citizen. Why, coz it simply much harder to earn a citizenship than to be born into it. I believe that not only we deserve fair and speedy immigration, but also when we do become citizens we should have the privilege to give two votes in elections. Now, I am not trying to display chutzpah here. I am going to back up my claim with reason. See, a lot of us came here 5-10 years ago with almost no money. Many of us never received any formal education in America. However, we have been able to survive and keep a job in this country, even during the stock market crash of 2001 and the economic recession after that. No small feat. We are the last ones to leave the office at night (Actually, that is true for both legal and illegal workers, coz the legal computer programmer is still coding Java at 7:00 PM while the illegal janitor starts vacuuming the office). We relocate across states as-if its relocating 2 traffic lights away. We adapt to different employers, we adapt to all employers. And all these without driving down the wages. Yes, it�s true. We don�t depress the wages and we don�t steal jobs and the labor certification is designed to prevent that and it�s working. We all know how great its working and how intense the process is, especially those who are stuck in Philly and Dallas backlog creation centers.

    So, to sum it up, we have twice to right to petition the government for a redress of grievances, twice the right to everything. It�s an earned right, not a birthright. Our natural instinct should be to exercise the rights we have earned. If we cannot do it now, we are not going to really make anything out of citizenship of Greencard that we are pursuing.

    And coming back to the sound bites about privileges and �Nation of laws� coming out of Washington today, let me say this: The pilgrims, who dropped anchor near Cape Cod in 1620 didn�t go through a port of entry and get their passports stamped and their I-94s stapled. I don�t think the Indians were waiting at the coast of Virginia to stop immigrants. They just came. And they settled. And they called it home. No priority dates. No visa bulletins.

    So you see, what really matters here is whether you feel you are entitled to something or not. If you don�t feel entitled to a fair immigration process that does justice to those who seek legal ways to immigration, then you probably aren�t entitled. To ask for something, you must first believe that you deserve it. And to show that you deserve it, you must ask it loudly and clearly from rooftops. Don�t predict visa bulletins, but work to change and influence the visa bulletin 6 months from now. And no, you wont be deported for exercising that constitutional right.

    �Our ancestors ... possessed a right, which nature has given to all men, of departing from the country in which chance, not choice has placed them.�

    � Thomas Jefferson (1743�1826, 3d President of the United States, author of the Declaration of Independence)





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  • tammigaw
    04-27 02:53 PM
    Guys,

    with the measures that listed in the bill , i am sure it is going to face same fate as it had before in 07 .I read some where that this bill did not gain support as Oracle is against it .

    This bill is against practices that is done mainly by Indian Outsourcing companies, as will impact all the american organizations in longer run (if a company outsource its operations ,they need to have a Permanent local hire to shadow the resource).

    But even in the worst case even if bill gets tabled ,it will not gain support in the current form .

    But IV Stand is Correct on this issue , not to support this bill as it may hamper our immigrant interest in longer run.



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  • Raju
    07-19 04:09 PM
    Yes IV members and other EB folks who are/will benefit(ing) from this are indebted big time to Aman and IV core. Com'on guys this fellow sold his house and spends a good chuck of his time for a selfless cause. IV core can sit on a couch like you and me watch TV, spend time with their family and not bother about contributing a penny. The least we could do is support them.





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  • pa_arora
    01-31 01:06 PM
    done and have told few of my mates here to do so...lets spam. people may not vote on this IV site but definitely there r more numbers than what we are showing on IV poll.



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  • fasterthanlight�
    06-07 11:07 AM
    Skinning the wheel is too easy, all you have to do is plop the graphic down and set the blending accordingly. Leaving the wheel stock makes it harder because you gotta get the elliptical out.





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  • conchshell
    06-05 01:04 PM
    and left messages ... lets see where this takes us ...



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  • Dipika
    09-17 12:27 PM
    Congratulations sku! enjoy your freedom!

    can you guide me how to find congressman of my state (NJ) and how should i write to senator and congressman?





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  • Maniaci
    06-08 03:18 PM
    I say end it asap. Unless someone has an amazing design in the works that will take a while, there is no use to keep goin imo heh.



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  • franklin
    07-12 11:21 AM
    We should update the question in the poll and make it specific only for people who live in and around of bay area, else the 'no I cannot attend' will be from all IV members who have no way to attend since they dont live in the bay area.

    At this point, I am assuming that everyone that said "no" its because they don't live nearby :)





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  • poorslumdog
    03-29 02:19 PM
    Came to USA on H1B, paid for the H1B fees(at that time didn't know it was illegal to do so)
    however after coming here , Paid for my own ticket and landed here on start of january 2011.

    Confirmed my arrival to the employer too. Since my leaving the home country there has not been any mail correspondence from the employer , though i have been writing many. Talked to him over the phone and he said he wasn't responsible for my arrival as he doesn't have any project for me. Waited to get another job as a H1B TXFR but stuck with trnsfrs issues due to non availablity of paystubs from him.

    I never reported to work as he said dont come to office, dont have any paystubs, but have all my H1B papers , I97 and Employment offer from that consultant. I have decided to leave back to my home country but not before reporting this blood sucker to DOL.

    I need to clarify a few things before i nail these blood suckers

    1. How long before i board my flight back home , should i send the documents to DOL

    2. I have the originals of H1B filing and LCA and I94, are they rquired in originals
    or copy to send to DOL

    3. What other documents should i send alongwith

    4. Do you think my case will get weaker if iam not here ? As i am flying back to my home country.

    5. I dont want these suckers to go scott free, so how to build my case here , can i ask the DOL to recover my wages for 4 months i wasnt getting paid.


    I do not care if i get any wages or not from them , but i really wanna see the locks on the gates of this company. They shouldn't take H1B and its applicant for scapegoats.

    Any advices are welcome to help me bring these guys to justice.

    Did you get the invitation letter addressed to the IO at POE by your employer. Why did he invite you here in the first place when there is no project.



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  • NYC-circuit
    12-08 04:28 PM
    Hope there will be CHANGE





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  • cagedcactus
    11-14 01:26 PM
    WD, I am with you on this.
    Heck, if no one will do it, I will send that letter with different names multiple times.....
    Dobbs is not only unfair, he is the ultimate hypocrite. Nothing but an opportunistic Fagg*t.
    And if WWJ cares to contact me back and ask me to justify my statement, I am ready to do it.
    I am not going to sit on my comfy behind and wait for lunatics like Dobbs to decide what my future will be....
    If I go down, I am going to go down swinging.....
    I am even going to call the radio and ask the same thing you have put in that letter if they ignore my emails.



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  • h1techSlave
    07-10 09:33 PM
    As per our lawyers, right now USCIS is in the process of entering our applications in their system (for date of receipt and such). There was a memo from USCIS saying that they will be done with the job of data entry by August 1.

    From August 1, we can expect either rejection or acceptance of the actual application. The hope is that a court/congressional intervention before August 1 will change the USCIS action of rejection into acceptance.

    Flowers to Condi; any body?

    Cheers,
    h1techSlave





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  • belmontboy
    04-20 04:56 PM
    getgreen and bboy this is for you .......

    dont mind the hypocrites here. They are blinded by frustration and have lost their minds. In fact, at this rate, the time may not be far away when they decide to bid adieu


    ignoring you again :D



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  • learning01
    02-01 12:53 PM
    where there are no /nil/nada/zip GCs, it is a fault in the system. Because no disclosures are needed. They are the attorneys and future law makers. They are done with hi-tech workers, nurses. Now it is time to look for new 'bhakra'/'meka'/'aadu'
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    Physician Visas: What You Need To Know Now
    Speakers: Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker.
    Seminar Outline
    Speaker bios
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    Each call features an hour of analysis, strategy and practice tips by Gregory Siskind, Suzanne B. Seltzer, Joseph P. Curran, Jacqueline DeAndrus Bucar, Kristi L. Crawford, Eleanor M. Fitzpatrick, Benjamin T. Kurten, Chris Musillo, Ronald A. Nair, Jan Pederson, Donna Rae Richardson and Barry Walker, followed by 30 minutes of questions and answers from participants.
    SEMINAR OUTLINE
    FIRST Phone Session on Dec 21, 2006: How to Immigrate as a Physician
    � Credentialing and licensing: What does it take to be a US doctor? (ECFMG, residuary, USMLE)
    � Entering to get credentialed
    o B Visas
    o F Visa - study centers
    � Training
    o From soup to nuts � how a doctor gets in to a residency program and gets to the US
    o J-2 spouses
    o H Visa - What's really required to be an H-1B resident? Which programs are subject to the H-1B cap?
    o O Visa Can it work for a "training" position?
    � J-1 Waivers
    o HPSAs, MUAs, MHPSAs - understanding shortage areas
    o Which federal government agencies sponsor waivers?
    SECOND Phone Session on Jan 18, 2007: Hs, Os and Green Cards for Physicians
    � J-1 Waivers
    o I'm a specialist, where can I go?
    o State 30 programs
    o Waiver procedures - nuts and bolts
    o Interaction of J waiver and NIW for underserved areas
    o The impact of bi-specialization on waiver processing
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    o Basic requirements
    o Cap issues for MDs
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    THIRD Phone Session on Feb 1, 2007: Nurses and Legislative Update
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    I agree with the initial post . But the market condition is such that it is very difficult to get qualified people for ERP/CRM applications so desi consultants get placed through desi companies .





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  • indiadivided
    02-14 10:22 AM
    Before giving an analogy, think twice.


    If black hats were around during the Indian independence movement, here's how it would have been:

    In 1930's
    Black hat: "What the hell, Gandhi! What good did salt satyagraha do? Where are the results? What did you achieve in the last 15 years? Change the leadership."

    In 1940's:
    Black hat: "Yeah. I continue to do nothing. But you suck."

    In 1942:
    Black hat: "Quit India movement! What a stupid waste of time. Gandhi, you should do a cultural show and raise some money."

    Ok. Ideas seem to be always welcome at IV. But crassly worded trashing of volunteer leaders rankles a lot of us.

    I won't be reading that silly sounding de bono hat book you suggest. But I might go to a cultural show by that other Bono and help him raise some money.





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  • wawa
    10-13 06:21 PM
    Hi All,

    You know my old H1B case was reopened on Sept. 28, and the USCIS Emailed me that they sent a notice. But I haven't received such notice, my employer/attorney also didn't receive any notice. I wonder the USCIS didn't send this notice at all!





    ilikekilo
    04-03 07:55 PM
    My bad , mine is from NSC...I just chose your post to quote..sorry for hte mix up..

    whats up with USCIS issing RFE's and stuff for people with PD's so far away..Iam not sure what the RFE is but it makes me wonder what USCIS is doing with files with a PD of 04 that too eb3..:rolleyes:





    Macaca
    02-14 01:41 PM
    There is no leadership problem in core : not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Core has much better info for decision making then any non-core; the decision may be interim relief (I-485 filing, unused visa recapture, ...) or any thing else. My conclusion is based on my readings about immigration issues, our issue, current political situation and core posts. Core has correctly predicted Ag Jobs and Schedule A this month. We are wasting our time by debating this issue. Please educate yourself.

    Core has not misused any contribution money; it is not easy to misuse contributions made to non-profit organization. Once again please educate yourself. Besides, how much contribution money is there? However, I have very serious problems with members when Aman says that he has spent 30-40K of his own money and logiclife says that he has spent his own money on travel : shame on all members who are still sitting on their $20 and debating all other issues.

    I do have some issues with core. Some members are curious about finances and progress reports. It is much better to post such info (decided by core) rather then wasting time when someone asks about. At present, such info has been posted and is the best info available at this time.

    I also have some issues with deleting posts. Based on the contents of deleted posts, I don't think the core has much to hide. Hence, it is better to let these posts exist rather then delete them. Members who agree with these posts should be free to debate. They will not hurt IV. Deleting posts has undermined the credibilty of core.

    IV was founded by some some core and exists only because of their efforts. They have earned the right to make some decisions. Please understand that, everyone makes some mistakes and has some bad days. I request non-core to give then benefit of doubt on side shows and freak shows. We are wasting our time on these issues.

    I have very serious problems with most members. Core is negotiating with a lobbying firm. I understand that QGA was paid 60K.

    1. Where is the money for the lobbying firm?
    2. Whose problem is it to arrange money for the lobbying firm?
    3. How does discussing any issue in the forums help us in arranging money for the lobbying firm?

    So non-core, please don't worry about core. Worry about yourself. You are doing a great dis-service to our cause by debating anything not covered by the folowing.

    1. What are your responsibilties?
    2. What are your results?